03 October 2022
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24 September Trailffest Half
Marathon : An Event Train will be provided by the
Ffestiniog Railway to take the competitors from the
event centre at Porthmadog to the start of the race in
Tanygrisiau, the cost of which is included in the entry
24-25 September Bala
Model Railway Show (organised by the Bala Lake
Railway). Venue: Ysgol Godre'r Berwyn, Ffrydan
Rd, Bala. Open
10.00 – 16.00 both days.
twenty layouts will be on display in a range of standard
and narrow gauges. There will also be at least nine
trade stands. A vintage bus will be running between the
show venue and the Bala Lake Railway.
Friday 7 October Clwyd Railway Circle: Fond
Memories. A look back over 70 years of Railway
interest by Larry Davies
7-9 October: Ffestiniog
and Welsh Highland Railways: Vintage weekend.
8-9 October Llangollen
Railway DMU railcar weekend
Friday 4 November Clwyd Railway Circle: A
trip by Norwegian Railways to Hell (and back).
Railway Ride the Rocket Firework Train
Friday 2 December Clwyd Railway Circle: Members
Selections & Christmas Celebrations Members
are invited to give a 15-minute presentation of
their choice (Any format). Contact David Jones
01244 537440 to book a slot.
Calendar page for meeting venues)
North Wales Coast Railway website created and
compiled by Charlie
Gary Thomas was at Conwy Morfa on 2 October to record
the first Rail Head Treatment train of the season, heading
back from Holyhead about 50 minutes early with 56 105
leading. 56 049 was on the rear.
An interesting event on 28 September was a test run of one
of TfW's acquired ex-Grand Central, ex-LNER mark 4
coaches from Crewe Carriage Sidings to Manchester Piccadilly
booked to stop at Alderley Edge, Wilmslow and Stockport. The
train returned to Crewe at 11:21. Kevin Parkinson
took these pictures at Stockport.
The formation was DVT 82200, coaches 11320, 10321, 12326,
loco 67 008.
Also in action on 28 September was 67 015 with one
of the original Mk4 sets, seen at Flint with 1V96 Holyhead
to Cardiff Central service (Stephen Dennett). The set
of coaches was HD03 - Real
Time Trains now usefully includes this information as
well as the loco number.
On 3 October Stephen Dennett recorded 67 029
at Helsby, working from Crewe to Longsight Excursion
Platform (outside Manchester Piccadilly) and back, another
trial run for the loco-hauled Manchester - Cardiff service.
Sideline: The Longsight Excursion Platform has an
interesting history. As its name suggests, it was built for
excursions to Belle Vue, an large amusement area close to
the long-closed Longsight station. The excursion platform is
the only part of the station remaining today, and it has
recently been given a safety makeover; if a loco-hauled
train from Piccadilly platforms 13 and 14 in push-pull
formation uses the track to layover between journeys, the
driver can move to the other end of the train without
climbing down on to the trackside.
66 725 Sunderland comes through Flint station
with 6D90 Penmaenmawr Quarry to Hunslet Tilcon on 28
September. The train was on the 'long circuit' to Hunslet,
with Crewe Basford Hall being the first staging post (Stephen
Peter Basterfield writes: ' I checked Checked Real
Time Trains early on 30 September to find 66 725 and
66726 listed for a 6Z60 from Doncaster Decoy into
Penmaenmawr, 66 725 leading on the returning to
'They were top-and-tailed so ran straight in, thus
eliminating the meed to split, run round, and reconnect the
'66 726 on the rear. No sign of a 'Trainman' to
reconnect so I suppose there was no need for a GBRf man to
travel in - Cost Saving? '
Night had fallen on 26 September when the loaded slate waste
train, worked by 66 705, departed Llandudno Junction.
Peter Basterfield captured the train setting back
through the old platform 4 line to the main line ...
... and in platform 1 setting sail for Wellingborough (Peter
Train 6V41 17:08 Penyffordd to Avonmouth Hanson cement
heading to Dee Marsh to run round before heading back south
at 18:25, worked by 66 719 Metro-Land.
Approaching Buckley (above) ...
...and heading away east (Alastair Graham).
On Thursday 28 September at Roodee Junction, 70 803 on the
Carlisle to Chirk logs. In the background is ...
... 66 543 waiting on a Crewe to Dee
Marsh ballast train (Bob Greenhalgh).
At Helsby on 3 October 37 610 was on a circuit from
Derby to Warrington, presumably a route-learning job, taking
in the Ellesmere Port branch from Helsby through to Hooton.
The picture shows the 'tractor' at Helsby (Stephen
Possession at Dee Marsh - report by driver Jim Scott
On Sunday 19 September I was asked to go to Wrexham to take
a train back to Crewe at midnight arriving there for about
02:00; I contacted the signaller at Wrexham who informed me
the train was still on site and was running ‘a bit late’.
I ended up going to Shotwick to relieve the other driver at
midnight, it transpired the work was over running and the
ballast hadn’t been dropped, as the train was quite away
from the access point I had a ride in this mini road-rail
Once I got to the train I discovered it was actually a
Freightliner service with a couple of class 66s top-and-tail
10 autoballasters, 66 528 at one end.
The possession should have ended at 04:30 but I didn’t begin
dropping the ballast until then before heading slowly back
to Wrexham: 66 537 seen at the other end.
As the train was so late it went back via Chester instead of
its booked path via Shrewsbury, arriving there some 6 hours
The possession overrun meant that no passenger trains were
able to run to Bidston until around 10:30 from Wrexham.
Borderlands engineering - by Alastair Graham
The Borderlands line was closed on Sunday 25 September for
engineering work. A class 70 was around at Dee Marsh area
and there was drainage work being done on the north side of
the line between Shotton (above) and Hawarden. A
Freightliner 66 was under the A494 road bridge with ballast
Barmouth Bridge reopening 1986 - recalled by John Dawson
I was very interested to see the leaflet about the reopening
of Barmouth Bridge to loco hauled train (last issue). At the
time I was London Midland Region Public Relations officer
responsible for the event. The picture shows the
reopening train (08:00 from Euston ) crossing Barmouth
Bridge prior to breaking a banner at the station.
It took a considerable amount of shunting to get three
Sprinter trains plus the loco-hauled train accommodated in
the station area so that they could be 'watered’ by
the fire brigade and form the afternoon special trains.
Incidentally, does anyone know what happened to the slate
plaque which was unveiled on the same day and for many years
was in Barmouth station Booking hall?
The Royal Scotsman visited Chester and North Wales as part
of a British (rather than purely Scottish)
itinerary on Wednesday 28 September. That day’s itinerary
had originated at Dundee and the train was booked to stop
for Chester for around 3 hours before continuing into
North Wales. Above, the train after arrival in platform 3 at
Chester behind appropriately-liveried 66 746
with sister loco 66 743 (also in the matching
livery) on the rear.
Unusually the train was booked to turn on the Chester
triangle before stabling on the goods lines while the
passengers enjoyed a tour of Chester. I assume that
this was to ensure that the observation coach remained at
the rear when it headed out of North Wales on
Thursday. As the continuation to North Wales was
scheduled to late around sunset I concentrated on
photographing the train during its traversal of the
Chester triangle. The picture above shows it passing
the yard at Chester depot which contained both “old
& new” with class 175 & 197 units visible.
Exiting the Northgate cutting en route to stable on the
goods lines with 66 743 nearest the camera.
Gary Thomas was at Llandudno Junction to see
the the service arriving from Chester. The train had
paused to allow the passengers to visit Gwyrch Castle for
Dinner. It then went empty to Holyhead and back, stabling in
platform 1, before the passengers returned for their
66 746 leading the empty stock from Holyhead to
Bangor, where passengers would rejoin the train having spent
the day in Caernarfon and on the Welsh Highland Railway (Gary
From Dave Sallery's archive
20059 and 20 195 pass the now-demolished
Connahs Quay power station with coal from Point of Ayr to
Fiddlers Ferry on 4 July 1991.
47 854 passes Betws-y-Coed with the returning
'Lancastrian' charter to Carnforth. The tram on the
left was, at the time, on the only electric railway in
Wales; 25 June 2005.
31 301 passes Prestatyn on a down engineers spoil
train, 14 January 1988.
Looking back: Steam and Diesels part 4 - by David Pool
The Pathfinder railtour on 19 May 2007 was “The Snowdonian”,
1Z37 06:00 Cardiff to Pwllheli. Being before the days
of requiring locomotives on the Cambrian line to be fitted
with ERTMS equipment, it was hauled by 37 406 The
Saltire Society and 37 410 Aluminium
100. The train has just left Sutton Bridge
Junction in Shrewsbury The undergrowth on the right is
concealing the trackbed of the old Shropshire and
Montgomeryshire Railway from Shrewsbury (Abbey) station.
On the same day, the 07:05 Milford Haven to Manchester
Piccadilly was being worked by 175 110. This
is passing Coleham Depot at Sutton Bridge Junction on the
approach to Shrewsbury. The signals show the influence
of both London Midland and Western Regions in this
The Standard Tank 80136 was to be seen on the
Llangollen Railway on 17 August 2007, and is making a
spirited departure from Berwyn. A wide angle lens
would have given a view of the Chain Bridge and the River
Dee, but on this occasion I chose to focus on the steam
exhaust and the Berwyn Station building.
Double headed “Halls” would not have been seen regularly on
the Western Region. On the Devon banks the train
engine would have usually been a “King” or a “Castle”, and a
“Grange” or a Mogul would have more often been the assisting
locomotive. A single “Hall” was quite sufficient for
normal operations elsewhere, but in the days of Preservation
a second locomotive was an attraction and insurance. 4965
Rood Ashton Hall and 4936 Kinlet Hall
are on 1Z91 at Hargrave on 18 August 2007. The train
was 08:25 'Cathdral Express' London Victoria to
Chester; the steam locos has taken over from West Coast
Railways 47 245 at Chester.
By 2007 the Merseyrail Electrics had all been refurbished at
Eastleigh, so I cannot remember why a pair of Class 507
units had been away somewhere for attention. Units 507
003 and 507 017 were being returned to Merseyrail on 10
September 2007, hauled by 47 802 with barrier coaches 977087
and 975875. The train is at Rossett, on the way to
Croes Newydd, where the locomotive would run round.
After photographing the train at Wrexham, I was able to get
to Bidston before it arrived. It was a little
surprising that the train was passing through Platform 2 and
about to take the crossover towards Birkenhead North, rather
than taking the Platform 1 route.
The shot of 175 007 at Pensarn on 23 October 2007
with the 09:28 Holyhead o Crewe provides an interesting
comparison with the photo of 175 110 at Shrewsbury featured
earlier. The “First” style on 175 007 is more
traditional than the new Arriva style on 175 110, the latter
showing that the era of adhesive vinyls had arrived.
While I appreciate some of the decorations applied today,
there are others on locomotives in particular which seem to
be mobile advertisements with little artistic merit.
The Railhead Treatment Trains were running on 24 October
2007, and the North Wales coast was the territory of DRS
Class 37s. 37 261 and 37 194 were passing
Dwygyfylchi footbridge, and made a nice picture, although I
would have like the sun to have moved round to give more
light on the nose of 37 261. The large-logo numbers
were just visible under the grime, but I noted that the DRS
branding on the cab sides had been kept clean!
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