27 September 2022
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24 September Trailffest Half
Marathon : An Event Train will be provided by the
Ffestiniog Railway to take the competitors from the
event centre at Porthmadog to the start of the race in
Tanygrisiau, the cost of which is included in the entry
24-25 September Bala
Model Railway Show (organised by the Bala Lake
Railway). Venue: Ysgol Godre'r Berwyn, Ffrydan
Rd, Bala. Open
10.00 – 16.00 both days.
twenty layouts will be on display in a range of standard
and narrow gauges. There will also be at least nine
trade stands. A vintage bus will be running between the
show venue and the Bala Lake Railway.
Friday 7 October Clwyd Railway Circle: Fond
Memories. A look back over 70 years of Railway
interest by Larry Davies
7-9 October: Ffestiniog
and Welsh Highland Railways: Vintage weekend.
8-9 October Llangollen
Railway DMU railcar weekend
Friday 4 November Clwyd Railway Circle: A
trip by Norwegian Railways to Hell (and back).
Railway Ride the Rocket Firework Train
Friday 2 December Clwyd Railway Circle: Members
Selections & Christmas Celebrations Members
are invited to give a 15-minute presentation of
their choice (Any format). Contact David Jones
01244 537440 to book a slot.
Calendar page for meeting venues)
North Wales Coast Railway website created and
compiled by Charlie
66 705 Golden Jubilee enters Llandudno
Junction on 26 September with the 6Z58 slate waste empties
from Wellingborough. Picture by Garry Stroud.
66 725 Sunderland at Penmaenmawr loading the
return 6F22 loaded stone service to Tuebrook sidings, 26
September (Garry Stroud).
Departing Llandudno Junction at Pabo Lane (Garry
Gary Thomas avoided the clouds at Dwygyflychi to
capture the loaded stone train on 26 September.
66 705 Golden Jubilee shunting at Llandudno
Junction on 26 September with the 6Z58 slate waste empties
from Wellingborough (Garry Stroud).
Rolling stock notes
Currently there appears to be a problem with the TfW Class
175 units, with a number noted apparently out of
service at Chester depot, which is now operated by CAF,
makers of the new 197 sets which are now planned to replace
them in December. Is there a policy not to spend money on
The ex-LNER Mk4 coaches may be in passenger service
soon: it's been reported that they will take over on
Holyhead-Cardiff service from the existing sets which will
be needed to be sent away to be fitted with selected door
opening (SDO) equipment - rather surprisingly in the new
timetable this is needed because Nantwich and Wem retain
calls by the forthcoming Manchester-Cardiff trains. This
would perhaps explain the test run to and from Holyhead
reported in the last issue.
[Sideline: Northern's CAF 195 and 331 units have automatic
SDO which seems rather sluggish. Scenario: Train stops in
station. Indicator on nearest door tp passenger shows 'Door
Not in Use'. Nervous passenger runs off to find a workable
door. Door light goes to green. ]
Of the four ERTMS-fitted Class 97/3 locos, only
three (302, 303, 304) ever seem to be present at the Coleham
depot. It is out of traffic at Derby Railway Techical
Centre, as seen on this
Twitter link. Cefn Willis writes: 'I asked a railway
contact if he knew 97 301’s status - he replied that there
did appear to be efforts ongoing to return her to service
(she was apparently load-bank tested earlier in 2022).
However those appear to have ground to a halt recently.
Hopefully she’ll be back in Wales soon and I can catch up
with her - she was a favourite of mine and my late father in
her previous guise of 37 100, ever since first
catching her at the old Severn Tunnel Junction in 1982'.
On the same topic: Two West Coast Railways Class 37s, 37 668
and 37 669, were equipped
for ERTMS in 2005-7 using Hitachi equipment -
apparently commissioned by Great Western Railway. As far as
we know the equipment has only been used on a few test
runs. Waste of money?
68067 at Llangollen - pictures by Martin Evans
On 17 September Martin Evans went to
Llangollen as Hudswell Clarke 0-6-0 68067 (works no
WD75091) was in traffic . Above 68067 runs around from Plat
2 at Llangollen before setting back in Platform 1 to form
the 11am service to Carrog.
Having arrived at Carrog it waits to run around ready to
form the 11.50 am return to Llangollen. The number and
livery are fictional, the loco never worked for British
Back at Llangollen as it prepares to take on water.
950 001 did a trip from Longsight to Blaenau
Ffestiniog on 27 September, then back via Bangor to Crewe (Gary
'Deltic' D9000 Royal Scots Grey on a test run at
Chester, 22 September (Bob Greenhalgh).
The Bala lake railway on Sunday 25 September at Llangower
Station with Maid Marian...
... Crosville Bristol bus KG 147 (built 1950) worked the
shuttle service to the model railway show.
Cambrian scenes - by Barrie Hughes
The 'Snowdonian Statesman' crosses Barmouth bridge on 11
September, the last day before the line was closed
again for work on the bridge. Network Rail state that
work on rebuilding the bridge will now extend to a third
season in 2023, and work this Autumn is split over two
periods with the line being reopened for four weeks during
the Half Term Holiday period.
Network Rail information)
Approaching Barmouth harbour: a surprise for people on the
Arriving at Porthmadog with 97 302 John Tiley
wearing a wreath out of respect to Her Majesty who had dies
a few days before.
On the rear at Porthmadog, 97 302 Ffestiniog and
Welsh Highland Railways.
A reminder of the 1986 re-opening of Barmouth Bridge to
loco-hauled trains after the Teredo worm debacle. This
was administered from Barmouth Station Booking Office.
[Note the involvement of SuperTed
and Spotty Man - this historic detail had escaped me until
From Dave Sallery's archive
37 219 on the trip freight to Warrington Arpley, 26
47 217 with logs for Shotton Paper at Wrexham
General, 28 September 1992.
56 010 on empty coils for South Wales at Shotton High
Level, 21 April 1995.
Sometime Conwy Valley celebrity 101 685 looking
rather tatty on a Bidston - Wrexham service at Gwersyllt in
July 2001. This unit was among the last few first generation
units, finally working out of Longsight depot until December
2003. It was saved into preservation, and has worked on a
number of heritage lines; today it is on loan to the North
York Moors line.
Looking back: Steam and Diesel 2007 Part 3 - by David
Several images of the Steam Steel and Stars event on the
Llangollen Railway in 2007 appeared in the Notice Board for
1 March 2021. One locomotive which was very
familiar to me in BR days was 1450, which regularly
worked the trains from Exeter to Tiverton and Dulverton
before the line closed in 1963. On 20 September 1963,
a couple of weeks before closure, 1450 was on the 10:25
Exeter St Davids to Dulverton, and was photographed at Stoke
Canon, having just left the main line and taking the branch
In preservation 1450 went to the Dart Valley Railway, and
although it was fitting for it to remain in Devon, its
limited power required some assistance when it was working
the longer trains on the tourist railway. 1450 is
leaving Staverton Bridge on 23 April 1973, double heading
with 4555, which was out of sight on the train.
Another visitor to Llangollen in 2007 was 5224,
which had spent most of its working life on freight in the
Cardiff and Newport districts. Not surprisingly it
ended up at Barry, eventually going to the Great Central
Railway in 1978. By 1984 it had been restored, and
worked on the GCR for many years, occasionally visiting
other Preserved railways. It was bought by Pete Waterman in
1998, and after continuing to visit Preserved railways it
moved to his facility at Crewe. When this closed, 5224
went to Peak Rail, where it is currently stored awaiting
overhaul. On a frosty 27 December 1993 it was on the
East Lancashire Railway, and is leaving Irwell Vale.
Yet another ex GWR locomotive at Llangolllen in 2007 was
Prairie Tank 4160. This particular locomotive
had also been based in the Cardiff area, although nine
locomotives of this class were at Birkenhead in the 1950s,
and used on the Hooton to West Kirby branch. 4160 has
just left Llangollen on 20 April 2007.
The history of 4160 in Preservation illustrates the
difficulties encountered by the smaller organisations with
limited funds and the larger groups with many more
personnel, but often with conflicting opinions. After
withdrawal from BR in 1965 it was rescued from Barry in
1974, being sold to Tyseley, from where it went to the Plym
Valley Railway. Finances were not available to do much
restoration, and so the locomotive was moved to the West
Somerset Railway, where it would be a very useful addition
to their motive power, but remaining in private
After some issues with the quality of the restoration
carried out by a group at the WSR, the problems were
addressed and 4160 entered service in 1993. It was
photographed near Crowcombe on 30 April 1994, and although I
had expected the cows to react when the train approached,
they refused even to look at it. Maybe the lined black
livery on a GWR passenger locomotive was not to their
Arriva Trains Wales 158 829 is entering Whitchurch
on 21 April 2007 with the 08:35 Manchester to Cardiff.
Two features are unusual, the first being the chevron bars
on the bottom edge at the front of the unit, and the second
is the corridor connection face which is partly white.
On coaches these were sometimes painted with one half black
and the other half white, so it may be that a coach
connection was fitted to this unit and the white half had
not been fully covered with black paint.
Work on the Manchester Metrolink system resulted in
engineering trains using the East Lancs Railway at Bury
(Buckley Wells) to access the Metrolink track. EWS 60
002 was photographed coming off the “Ski Jump” at Bury
with 6P25, the 10:15 Bury to Arpley, on 25 April
2007. Metrolink's contractors ordered
ballast from Penmaenmawr quarry.
Ten days later, on 5 May 2007, 60 002 was on the
North Wales coast, working 6F18, the 14:50 Holyhead to
Arpley. The footbridge at Bagillt is deservedly
popular as a photographic location, but for a change I chose
to try a little further north, where the line is visible
from the main road. With a clear view of the track, it
should be possible to get a reasonable photo, but my shots
there tend to have been disappointing – possibly due to the
expanse of mud in the foreground which is difficult to
ignore. The heavily weathered Cargowaggons, which I think
are coded IZA, are conveying Aluminium. They are
bound, via the Channel Tunnel for an aluminium works near
Braunan am Inn in Austria.
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