02 March 2020
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March 2020
Tuesday 3 March North
Wales Railway Circle Barry Wynne and Steve
Morris. Another show from Barry's superb collection.
Friday 6 March
Clwyd Railway Circle Annual General Meeting -
followed by a Film Show
Thursday 12 March Llandudno
and Conwy Valley Railway Society plan to have a
visit from a representative from Transport for Wales.
More details later
Friday 13 March Altrincham
Electric Railway Preservation Society Wheels on
Reels. Transport Films – taken with a cine camera and
shown using a cine projector. Geoff Lomas presents a
selection of his Films in the traditional manner.
Monday 16 March RCTS
Chester "The Lever Brothers Railways Of Port
Sunlight" Mike Lister Telling the story of Levers’
railways. The soap factory was constructed in 1888 and
its railways covered 54 track miles and the talk will
describe the railway within the soap factory and other
factories at Bromborough.
Saturday 21 March Steam at Chester The
Cheshireman (Railway
Touring Company) 6233
Duchess of Sutherland London Euston - Crewe -
Chester & return
Saturday 21 March Stephenson
Locomotive Society. Manchester Centre. Melvyn
Roberts ‘Indian Summer of the Somerset & Dorset
Railway’ The S & D was (and still is) many
enthusiasts’ favourite cross-country railway. We will
hear about its unusual history, but the main feature
will be a slide show of its operations in the 1950’s and
1960’s.
April 2020
Wednesday 1 April RCTS
Liverpool "L&Y Engines At Work" Paul
Shackcloth. Paul Shackcloth is the photographic
historian for the Manchester Locomotive Society who have
a large collection. This talk will show 'Lanky'
locomotives at work over the whole of the ex-L&Y
network, including Liverpool Exchange.
Friday 3 April Altrincham
Electric Railway Preservation Society Great Named
Trains. (note: first Friday) featuring postcards of
named trains and video of the engines which hauled them
and survive in preservation. a digital presentation by
Society President Nick Dodson
Saturday 4 April Excursion Settle & Carlisle
Luncheon Circular (Statesman Rail) Pick-up
at Bangor (08:50), Llandudno Junction,
Colwyn Bay, Rhyl, Flint ,
Chester and Frodsham to the
Settle-Carlisle line - Carlisle Upperby
curve - Shap - Preston and return to pick-up
stations. (Note: fully booked.)
Tuesday 7 April North
Wales Railway Circle Richard Sant, Secretary of
the LMS Patriot Company. Progress on The Unknown Warrior
Thursday 9 April Llandudno
and Conwy Valley Railway Society Trams in
Llandudno (Including L & CBER and Great Orme
Tramway) John Davies
Saturday 18 April Stephenson
Locomotive Society. Manchester Centre. Tim Owen
‘The activities of the Furness Railway Trust’ The
Furness Railway Trust has a collection of six steam
locomotives, including Furness Railway No. 20, plus
historic carriages. The illustrated talk will cover the
work of the Trust over the past 30 years.
Monday 20 April RCTS
Chester Martyn Hilbert - "Network Northwest
- Past and Present"
Wednesday 22 April Steam at Chester Great
Britain 2020: Day 6 (Railway
Touring Company)
46115 Grange-over-Sands - Carnforth -
Preston - Warrington Bank Quay - Chester - Wrexham
General - Shrewsbury - Hereford - Abergavenny - Cardiff
Central .
May 2020
Saturday 9 May Steam on the Coast Llandudno
Victorian Extravaganza (Vintage Trains) 7029
Dorridge - Llandudno
Tuesday 12 May North
Wales Railway Circle AGM and Photo Competition.
Wednesday 13 May Steam on the Coast The Moors
& Mountains Explorer: Day 7 (Steam Dreams).
Holyhead - Chester - Preston - Shap - Upperby
Curve - Settle and Carlisle - (to be confirmed)
Thursday 14 May Llandudno
and Conwy Valley Railway Society Evening Train
Trip to Betws-y-Coed, where we will spend an hour in the
Gwydyr. (Times will be confirmed later)
June 2020
Saturday 27 June Steam at Chester The Cheshireman
(Railway Touring Company). 60163 London
Euston - Chester and return.
July 2020
Sunday 19 July Steam on the Coast North Wales Coast
Express (Railway Touring Company) LIverpool -
Manchester - Holyhead (15:05 - 17:40).
Tuesday 21 July Steam on the Coast The Welsh
Mountaineer (Railway Touring Company) Preston - Blaenau
Ffestiniog and return
August 2020
September 2020
Saturday 5 September Steam at Chester 'The
Cheshireman' (Railway Touring Company). Norwich to Chester.
Loco 6233 for part of the journey.
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Train 6V41 14:14 Padeswood cement sidings - Avonmouth hauled
by 66 708 Jayne has just crossed Hawarden
Bridge on Sunday 1 March. The train has been running up to
three times a week and the Sunday departure is early enough
(Dee Marsh dep. 15:48) to be photographed after its
run-round at Dee Marsh Junction. Picture by Paul
Shannon.
Loco-Hauled
On 26 February, with Driving Trailer 82308 leading and
67 001 propelling, the 13:07 Holyhead - Manchester
passes Holywell Junction signalbox, an LNWR type 4 structure
built in 1902, fitted with a 54-lever frame to control the
access to the industrial sidings which existed in the
area. The box, which like all boxes between Chester
and Llandudno Junction, is redundant, replaced by a person
at a computer screen in Cardiff, but looks in remarkable
good condition. The windows have been protected with some
transparent material. A former station platform is just
visible on the left; once it had four through platforms
- and a bay for the strange little branch to Holywell
Town. There have been proposals for a 'North Wales Metro'
service from Chester to Flint (where a crossover has been
provided) calling at new and re-opened stations, but
this does not seem to have found favour.
The view from the other side of the bridge. There is still
industry behind the trees on both sides, in the form of a
business park and other modern businesses, but railway
freight is not among their requirements at present. To
the left is 67 001 is a surviving abutment of the bridge
which carried the original Holywell Railway on
its way to Greenfield harbour. The Disused
Stations website tells the interesting story of the
complex railway history of this area. Both pictures:
Peter Laithwaite.
67 014, a former Wrexham & Shropshire-liveried
loco, has gained the eye-catching TfW livery, as seen
propelling the 13:07 Holyhead to Manchester at
Bagillt. on 2 March (Tim Rogers). The extra
connector for the forthcoming Mk4 coaches is present on the
cab end.
Beeches Farm (Bob Greenhalgh). Perhaps some branding
for the sides of locos is still at the design stage.
'Q trains'
The New Measurement Train with 43 014 and 43 013
passing through platform 3B at Chester on 27 February
working from Derby RTC to Crewe via Holyhead (Ryan
Lloyd).
37 116 passing Penyffordd, 25 February (Bob
Greenhalgh).
Cement traffic
Another view of Sunday 1 March's cement train to Avonmouth,
this time on its way to Dee March to run round, passing
Buckley (Bob Greenhalgh).
Thanks to Penyffordd worker Martin Peters, a
view of the loading point in the factory complex,
taken at 13:00 on Thursday 27 February. The train had
arrived the previous day at 18:49 (booked time 19:21) as
6M42 09:20 from Avonmouth. The loaded train left at
17:03 as 6V41, passing Wrexham at 19:22, so many more photo
opportunities will become available as the year proceeds.
In passing, we note that GB Railfreight, unlike some other
companies, are not afraid to disclose on the Realtime Trains
database the reporting numbers of trains and even the
locomotive number of their trains.
First, last and 30 years ago - by Dave Sallery
The first Class 158 seen on the on the North Wales Coast was
158 714 on a nationwide gauging tour, seen passing
Prestatyn on its return journey.
Excluding the nuclear flasks, which were not really a proper
commercial service, the last freight train on the Coast line
west of Saltney Junction was 66 232 and this train
of empty bogie bolsters from Anglesey Aluminium to Tees Yard
in 2011.
101 653 on 3 March 1990 works a Llandudno -
Manchester Victoria service passing Mostyn, erroneously
showing Llandudno on the front.
Llangollen Railway news
Early in February Llangollen Railway wrote to all members
and shareholders seeking support for a cash injection of
£100k to help the Llangollen Railway Trust and the
Llangollen Railway PLC through a difficult financial
position. Thanks to generous support, the issue has been
resolved.
The General Manager, Liz McGuinness, has issued the
following statement:
Firstly, I would like to thank everyone for
their support and donations; we have had a fantastic
response from both members and shareholders. We are
fortunate to have received the finance we require through
various donations, this means we are now in a much safer
position and do not need to put the company in a company
voluntary agreement. We will not be selling or raising
funds against either of the locomotives Jennifer or
Austin 1.
This has been a very difficult time for the Railway, which
has been due to historic issues that have come to the
surface over the previous 24 months; we now have process
in place to prevent this happening again. I hoped we can
move forward and continue to make the railway a great
place to visit, work and volunteer.'
Contrary to assorted rumours that may have been circulating,
trains will continue running at Llangollen and the Corwen
project will continue to a conclusion.
By way of illustration, the picture by George
Jones shows the BRCW Class 104 DMU awaiting
departure at Llangollen as the 11am to Carrog on 24 February
in a week when a two-trains-a-day service operated for the
second week of half-term - this was more than sufficient for
the patronage in a week of mixed weather. Now over 60 years
sold, the 104 has been with Llangollen Railcars for 27 years
and is a true heritage item appreciated by those visitors
who say they went to school on the type. [Yes, done that,
and to work for 15 years - C.H.]
During March the weekday service from Llangollen will
operate with DMUs on Tuesdays-Fridays aimed at senior
citizens and walking groups heading for the hills from
stations through to Carrog. This
service offers the 'get you out or back' travel
option, as once provided by BR's Ramblers' Specials from
provincial cities and is one way to enjoy the Dee Valley.
Looking back: Preserved Black 5s in BR days - by Peter
Neve
During a school trip to Preston, Lostock Hall and Carnforth
on 10 July 1968 I took about 34 photographs. Some of the
engines in the photographs have been preserved, so here are
three of them. The camera used was somewhat better
than the borrowed Brownie 127, which I used to take the last
photographs I submitted! Above, 45407 (with
painted number on the smokebox door) simmers between duties
in the summer sunshine at Lostock Hall MPD, just a few
weeks before the end of steam on British Railways. The
engine is now a regular performer on the national network
and carries the name of The Lancashire Fusilier.
45025 passes under the bracket signal at Carnforth on
the same day and is heading for the coaling tower and
watering facilities. 45025 is currently the subject of a
major rebuild at the Strathspey Railway in Scotland costing
in the region of half a million pounds. It is the oldest
surviving Black 5, having been built at the Vulcan Foundry
at Newton-le-Willows in 1934; it is due to steam again later
this year.
45110 was photographed from a passing train at the
north end of Preston Station and is waiting for the “off”.
It is hauling a train of loaded mineral wagons. 45110 (named
RAF Biggin Hill) is on static display in the 'Engine
House' at Highley on the Severn Valley Railway, awaiting its
turn for overhaul.
Class 5 and a half? - by Chris Magner
I'm pleased to see a picture (above, repeated from the last
issue. Picture by Peter Neve) featuring the greatest
member of the 842-strong Class 5s. 44917 was
originally a Bath Green Park loco before transfer for a
short while to Birkenhead.
44917's finest hours came in the early months of 1967 when a
Chester based loco. At the end of February Driver Walter
Bernard (Shrewsbury) ran the 18 miles from Gobowen to
Shrewsbury in 16 minutes 15 seconds start to stop on
the 09:33 from Chester. On 2 March, on his last
day of steam, Driver Reg Cattle also of Shrewsbury and on
the 09:33, ran the section in 16 mins 23 seconds start to
stop. On both runs speed exceeding 90mph. If I
could re-live 16 mins 23 seconds of my life again it would
be with Reg Cattle on the footplate of 44917 on 2 March
1967. When running from Gobowen it was on the final
section in the UK where steam hauled trains were booked at a
'mile a minute'.
44917 had a further claim to fame. On Easter Monday
1967 it worked the last (as far as I know - readers will
correct me if this was not so) steam-hauled passenger
train down the Coast, having come on at Chester to a
Manchester to Bangor train. I hope other readers will share
their memories of this amazing loco - Maybe a five and a
half!
Petition News
The petition
to reverse the decision to remove some station calls on the
peak hour return train used by commuters from Bangor is now
closed. It gained 953 signatures, which a goof number but no
enough to oblige the Government to discuss it, but we'd
suggest readers do all they can to get this decision
reversed. Network Rail's timetablers seem to believe
in the idea of missing stops, not just in North Wales, but
it shows little respect to people who may have based their
lifestyle around a particular journey.
From the Archive - by Bob Greenhalgh
Above: 47 326 on a Kenmira or UKF fertiliser train at
Helsby for Warrington, October 1991.
Also in October 1991, a pair of class 20s pass through
Helsby with a Point of Ayr to Warrington merry-go-round
coal train.
31 442 on a Chester to Blackpool train on 29
Septerber 1992, seen at Mouldsworth.
On an unknown date, Frodsham viaduct being inspected
by the viaduct inspection train. If my memory is right I
think the Llangollen railway once had a viaduct inspection
railway vehicle.
Manchester area freights
70 003 passing through Timperley on 27 February with
a Runcorn - Brindle Heath empty waste train. It looks like
Class 70s have taken over this traffic from Class 66s (Greg
Mape).
60 039 Dove Holes passes through rainy
Altrincham on 14 February with a load of stone for
Warrington Dallam freight depot.
On 27 February, 66 709 Sorrento wends
its way through Manchester Oxford Road with the 14:12
Trafford Park - Felixstowe. Greater Manchester Mayor
Andy Burnham says that 'something should be done' about
these trains running through the congested infrastructure,
but in the short term there isn't an obvious alternative
route. In our experience, given a clear path they are not a
problem, but if blocked by later-running passenger traffic
they run into trouble. The answer must be to reduce
the number of passenger trains, and certainly avoid changing
passenger crews at Oxford Road as happens at present.
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